Hi everyone. I am planning on buying one of these as my first mixer, specifically because of the Midi capability. My question is can the bpm setting sync over midi? I’ve read both manuals. The bpm section makes no reference to midi, and the midi section shows control over the bpm knob. I’m not sure if that means you can sync bpm over midi, or if you can assign a cc message to control the knob. I have a lot of experience with midi, but video mixing is new to me. It seems intuitive that it would function just like my music rig, but I have no clue.
I have a V4 and some analog midi gear, I can try it later and let you know.
What were you planning on using the midi sync bpm for?
someone on the Video_Waaaves FB group answered the question. I want to sync effects, fades, and wipes to the bpm of a song being played from midi capable music gear. It turns out that this does work, so I think i’m going to go ahead and purchase one.
Sweet, I’m glad that it’s gonna work for you.
If you’re trying to decide between V4 and V8, go V8 the 4 extra inputs are helpful.
I wrote a Max for Live device that controls the V4 over MIDI. I tried to implement as many controls as I could. Pretty sure you can only turn BPM Sync On or Off over MIDI, not control the setting. On the V8 I think you can control the setting as well.
have you tried reading the manuals for those mixers? you can find the PDFs here: Video Equipment Manuals
I have a V8, I haven’t tried using MIDI but the manual seems to be relatively clear about what’s possible and what’s not.
Well I managed to sell a Keyboard and get a v8 at an alright price. It should arrive today, so I’ll post if I can get this to work. To jroman and pixelflowers’ comments, I have read the manual and bpm sync via midi clock is not specifically mentioned. I want to sync the clock to an MPC (or whatever clock source). I don’t know why roland would make a piece of midi gear that has bpm, midi, and no midi sync, but it certainly sounds possible in this case. If it doesn’t it will be easy enough to just set the bpm setting manually.
Here is a super crude max patch i made as an example of how the v4 can be controlled with midi beyond just midi sync. all of the effects can be toggled and the wipes can be controlled too.
----------begin_max5_patcher---------- 3368.3oc2cszjihiD9bU+JH7oY2nJuHg30DazQr6r6g4vDwbaOzyDUfAYWLE f7BhpqZlXpe6qdvCgMfkMfa26g1tPBiT9kOTpLSQ+G2e2pMj2vEqL9diOab2 c+w82cmnIdC2Uc8cqRCdKLInPbaqBIoo3L5pGj8QwuQEs+2e7wGMRHjWLhyn DC5ywEFjM+FNjZvtLMXuwKYjME7K1VlERiIYE0Ojj3LbHoLS7jfUMVPeOAKd z02VVYZbVBlJlHf1FIkz5VMqZce.M743rcOkyl.RxCXat17ACKf3q5qrVaZ7 qU+n3Hwvwl0OBb.q3M9m2eO+iGlCvIdqDU1EPwFbzIyHH6cArH9aiz3nXiPB C9Rv4FEOSJShLBeNHaGl8KwF6iYDUuXl0RgYVtBTxU7Evwh+Exc.Ly16Rvrc EegSWvU5QCvdog5VkMQeeOVR.rmA6eMy1dHQOGIEJHMKewmvgHPmUMOn7fTL Em+DNKXib9ZdADeF9Krm7QxKgTF6c0TXpVCAHwbwyNeMF5.LcTTZPhOgCAOH +4TmgoR7J56+kreIi0c4m9oe7e8iFEXZ49O8u2tkMAKd7eB+TXnIfeKYDJtv HHGyszrGGwMy7C+.vnfX7Noj86jZPufeuVghIz87HZTdKjFERHm4oZCB.PCA nNysQnHRISZ0HLIN7ENFE9LgTfkVdXfyFRPdzU0pLDIT4Xpe1m1nLBsZ9zwh h1sNkjQVF6NZpeA8gBUJl9Ei9cPiqecQqI8RQRbDNeVHy843BlnU.e0aEpvQ v1bpXdBKF1p7PsPmTRDVUDpOqQ9t05MboEeosogzdr7tRVq4FetQLWKAHo1j zTyfRSVnY2Cm8eIU3rG2ZBiRLBCgqVJOSLM8VCYTIz1UwzAzbHp0ZNo1ufoK Egg7.hkZ8DFFrNAUMqdoFk+9RQUVdtpTEXTpB5Oil42aDgSBzkvr5kv.CocV DuKKHYTURaKOAkCABcR+Q0IgtqTeRLq1R5shfua013D7q37Bl8WkI1cqXN8n z7cJ+DNJ8aDwCx8gllhyjMY0zTN9035eOpo0fbF8PYDSYtD0dyq1G3JS14Yk whohrQF+595GXMDHjgkKQH8fD4ov5Y70cIjvWvQJxPLrdONKNScAmNcGg2FT lPeZKa6REw+tbkCtvUO8uMHDO3ONisxffx9G4wLVY8srKONh4b.aRzAm4MWO b7sTJWNRkXD2QVv9d9wxsCOPmELhrrXSPNmMTsFErtSJgjzsqleWBdKsp68w YYGfhTx9g6LOd2yi7a2PXclN1yVzSwSkYxdehoKRepH30tnMMHIoR4r6i+sf r3T1lgowRV.zroS45zOWDlSRR5PuxddsmdhXRvg3uDGQeVLPpBCraOdesPzp FtbT7NbAsaazfcEca4HaFrlJ2Tog9DEmtOgQEcugNwUQUcT0LVm1GybVWSZT l.TI8CCfZuGOIGxpszPhpdiUCTMnsOsr+MjMPWOoSt9BmbEJMPE+COzLnq6p CloGnjV2oXEhJqNKBLGm8A2SCyu5.MatDRX5XgTMAafbAWW+SB1d2Df8e8Cl Bq8YhyvqgTqMZssuuuqCeQ7CW89Hzz7JgWoETRQP59hOlfrYuaxaTLisGjsI jfSKE56I7J2zTQJbDbyw8JgaBmA+vvyisXiABALmfH2U0FpcmPFAAmRu1Ac8 zqEvyYBjWCzR5soUymCgU.nk57rd+QGN+iyhvuo3q62ZXmlJs5iZnyB0f+eJ pArrNOXy9rfMqYD1jD2rshgoNJgV115BLNSVKrceX7nWOfC3hoJu+9QrBRYd XM2u1EIitSa1NJnwYMaK8ysNtxuQs3Xm8rvU2Yg4RNKL0bVvW+4faLMNZOIN iVwV7DAtiGA7Z+qfxzL0SSfpnJK1Ag3hEh9bbOG5CrTyBjt75iEMI4Qx3FY9 0cpITmGZtAVj4lvzp95HKE2SrvndBQKoACgWMmktZuFTuWMrdq3Q2I5IYjrd JfRyi2TRkFZUiS4YEwkcIjMAIUwSowK0wB+RaLZtuc9NiYx3QQhgaxkQXH3W xNL0o64e2jpCws9VaZ1tJkmgqScNP7UxAxP0mg2EkBjj3WwqiZCM5pWCZ4QM c9YqesIB6OS9BiB1TYDReB8DIYrMJxHQZR4wUe3LLd7NU6C.cj02BbnGqJ5A FKahfNpGM5Eing7ZPRIlr83v0293SHY6FCp6byLXOucKdaw3nMAguz2cViRl 8zWJi2KCdpucOcWlESaDhMuW0XwEoCpovE7aRgKaYlIkBW1vwDtb8uUDtfZH bIhghgHp8Wn3EzzrM77CKf0yMfeaOIqZaALHc5hf6Bhy9XRo8DdhrCpQd6Q1 poGEJ9DfFH+nN1WupPiuzFrIQCWV1SGYALejHqnU4v2dzji5.mwrBWDFvVK2 bsA.5tV78ZMoQmyKCwiy1k0aHzSFxdS6Qoevxs782hlWQd9slWGesaGyaDyq m115O+e9oy0n5IsYVrm4MPRbpLG4tygUSF6gI.bllMYOg3zx1oQcywY0M2rn vpsj7z.5vJbiVvuaBx1MdcRwcU1CICwfuvFj8n01ps0bay8acDzjYzxBh7sA 5gfnqU03cro81pp4JZa2m4giqXSYHN3XYAV6H1q1P3i8rWNd47CZ.YqQA9+V hyBwFwYFoEKXE4YuthB4zsynktFZVq9vBZPNkQurMom1RtO93mVJh0EfDbWn ZV4FjVgK3FuAeSt2HDvS2Mdacyr2HfF6MRD3n+1K32m1p3SeEZFsSISqnjGz v2IWc.Iq8XPEWFU+Yu7W6YzudQYjLoRceJ05IBJS0km7vD4L15gWVo6lhKJB 1gOhtAKCMqSvyPldx73rdjU2trR5sqORp1+lr2SJtI0WQb70vkJOWSw5mbwm V2oF3rvz5SyfEw5WI6kcXMiEhxAuuwLSxXKTFIdLE02cUu9kWaNP5bSp0S6z s3Vs1aORqxdTiQtdBrCHaNmBc9HuZSVmVlCcqJyUAvHMVft5V6ONm0nm07H4 wKczaCQO3MnnmquPlSKQO+abIO3smj2sgfG3VTvqZya5YzCdiK5YcyI5cUj7 FJT.L7MH7EiuKs3uLGGjYsDGGKPAPWgrVkWxH25cFzqrl4ok03DZHIQd7s3N 2XaB7c.Oz6eApqSp45DBhCCd+lAa8LcENLWisdigs.+abrsnrfFDmYvSHow2 YZ7HX8sAJyrRpHA6hFEku0kfywI3fB7MiLruiuxlnqJU1g.WvMB3NPvWBhJx 4mWJ1Jpl7.uqcjXrOGvDc5zs29Wm70+RcPLPdxnzOpu..qQX.ydd2AKWd2cM AxvWKKbrwS79EE8Z7uGED9wjhJ0XGRdYfic7raOaVBUGj8.4uyc02r0FRUPx 0p1PrAWorrwmeevmae0NX8UoPvxRfHNfQSeq4LpdlRYNouHwUWqTlTksjQeU wbYuIl5tYNcCppRfRWj3SYKhqrNYX1b1k8uD.YNo9JdNvWXfdbx2Z1e4jQI6 1kfWFQ8SY0yS5mo7HiehDHAuR17XO5bhgi+xjqEMxOf.FbbDpBdiJKLm16pR qt9kQAbdEEZpjhpMfLZUxAtnWYZbZsaBSeNt6QOqGZlWe06xY6aHRk71rij0 0Ab6G57IPYh2qFTYAlOeHuhyadPpa2n90YR6HpLd.Yx5c87fVhgD4ZZ640cX EO9rC+Uc9PcJ1y6oJ1xyDFGheVHTmJGMu4..7AkO.mp1ANxknD7tfv26ruFv XYdV8sPF735xfgtcXQfdB1bia9Btq70dhSaZ.60LyP6+xB4aJH9C+iCYHU4w UQ5Uzc2CxnTX9vSBTkH8Qm.He0y+yPGSK9gDBNv1.0cf3GNhSORbCHSdnb80 dn.Sbnbr0Xnr6bfAO3DtcEFZvwCs4zFZc3k1lyA9ZpwH4.6bSGbFRQROiflh hry2Fzb0rCKZMYA5LYkuqYqB4f3p4V7w1RiIKhKiglHOzF7USGQ+gd10Qr0Q XvBzdpJu3QB4qq13jGIOckYrl5HoiwMKmwTk7AxZkA3IC6CT9Rfzyd90kzZ1 B0ZxJ0+cAf1KmaISjVRllcTJNb5JiBssvCJeY07Z6rdpxWV9mOWelXghgFbp g1dFThzhHGeEMonrTttVToe45oIob.TOf9t+hvObzfe.8GElrkqd5U8hS1o4 poxAcNaN3bwPzxPyIPEYs2KiNPEpHtZpnBTWyJSdjzZUcvhHVp+tXlelu4jY 9dxxYAHKqpZlO+pYGnzYxBbzYxZJDXaVgje4bCsPs2F7TkcOPzXjQZptP08M LxXizTcvGB0cjl51AAN55.5T4Sh+i73zlyFUayWjWhpC5PcEnz4JeEOS8mrE XfV6DPRYSlSf.mguZyvPAzTmoeVgkzTmETlTaOWeY48ItdpyOKc1VTCfMCiE PqwZxrXKcrfbfKIyjAY8F6CQ9YZsK4fCzZvmNHqaXBFbyXUKiaIy8CxFzb0T maZsXkywlakQk9fW377Q4fWz7G7Rl+3Wv7C+xk+vWr7rQ9Ou++Y64iRB -----------end_max5_patcher-----------
I want one so bad that or rhe p10
I’ve had a couple good sessions with the V8 now. The BPM sync works great with other gear, but only controls the crossfader. It turns out that the manual actually does specifically say this, and I just didn’t know how to properly read a midi implementation chart. What is even better than bpm sync is using my digitakt to sequence various effects parameter changes! I’d love to use the MAX patches suggested, but do not currently poses an ableton or max license (I use bitwig). The effects in the V8 are awesome! Also useful is the number of inputs and outputs, which provide lots of opportunity for feedback experiments. The VGA input leaves something to be desired, but it may be that the video output of my computer just cant support a resolution that works well. I would highly recommend this specific mixer to anyone who wants to integrate video into an electronic music setup. The midi implementation is very thorough, and this is clearly what the mixer was designed for.